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  • buschi
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    Enfant de Troupe
    • 17.04.2012
    • 3

    58. Regiment der Infantrie Stralsund

    Hallo.
    In der Nähe von Stralsund habe ich diesen Uniformknopf gefunden.
    Zeitlich kann ich ihn fast auf das Jahr eingrenzen. Der Knopf selber wurde erst ab 1803 in dieser Form hergestellt. Da Stralsund von 1806 bis 1807 belagert wurde, stammt er wohl aus diesen beiden Jahren.
    Jetzt möchte ich natürlich mehr über dieses Regiment und seine Zeit in Stralsund erfahren. Wer kann mir Weblinks nennen oder Informationen geben? Ich bedanke mich schon einmal im voraus.
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  • lucien
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    • 21.02.2012
    • 171

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    • Sans-Souci
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      Major
      • 01.10.2006
      • 1841

      #3
      Hier, was Napoleon zu einem Gefecht am 14. März 1807 bei Stralsund schreibt:

      books.google.de/books?id=unE-AAAAcAAJ&pg=PA297&dq=14

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      • buschi
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        Enfant de Troupe
        • 17.04.2012
        • 3

        #4
        Danke für die weiteren Infos.
        Leider funktioniert der Link nicht. Ich hab es trotzdem bei books einmal gegoogelt.

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        • lucien
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          • 21.02.2012
          • 171

          #5
          French V, VII, VIII & IX Corps
          15 March 1807
          V Corps: Marèchal Massena
          Cavalry Brigade: Général de brigade Debelle
          1/,2/,3/10th Hussar Regiment (17/234/273)1
          1 Numbers are officers, men, and horses.
          1/,2/,3/21st Chasseur à Cheval Regiment (16/310/330)
          Division: Général de division Suchet
          Brigade: Généraux de brigade Claparede, Doumustier,
          & Girard
          1/,2/,3/17th Légère Regiment (55/1,340)
          1/,2/,3/,4/34th Line Regiment (66/1,653)
          1/,2/,3/40th Line Regiment (56/1,259)
          1/,2/,3/64th Line Regiment (50/1,280)
          1/,2/,3/88th Line Regiment (54/1,187)
          Artillery: Chef de bataillon Fruchard
          15/5th Foot Artillery (3/98)
          11/6th Foot Artillery (3/62)
          3/6th Horse Artillery (2/55)
          Det. 4th Artillery Artisan Company (0/5)
          4-12pdrs
          7-8pdrs
          4-4pdrs
          3-6" howitzers
          4/,5/3rd Principal Train Battalion (2/128)
          6/5th (bis) Train Battalion (0/63)
          French Peasants (0/63)
          Det. 4th Artillery Artisan Company (0/4)
          Division: Général de division Gazan
          Brigade: Généraux de brigade de Graindorge, Campana,
          & Ritary
          1/,2/,3/21st Légère Regiment (45/1,349)
          1/,2/,3/100th Line Regiment (60/1,700)
          1/,2/,3/28th Légère Regiment (52/854)
          1/,2/,3/103rd Line Regiment (70/1,632)
          Artillery: Chef de bataillon Desvaux
          5/,13/1st Foot Artillery (7/201)
          4/6th Horse Artillery (2/64)
          2-12pdrs
          1-8pdr
          8-6pdrs
          4-3pdrs
          2-5.7" howitzers
          2/,4/5/,6/5th (bis) Train Battalion (2/226)
          Det. 8th (bis) Train Battalion (0/59)
          Det. 4th Artillery Artisan Company (0/7)
          5th Dragoon Division: Général de division Beker
          Brigades: Général de brigade Boussard
          13th Dragoon Regiment (31/344/387)
          22nd Dragoon Regiment (17/283/332)
          Brigades: Général de brigade Viallanes
          15th Dragoon Regiment (18/218/268)
          25th Dragoon Regiment (30/488/523)
          Artillery:
          4/6th Horse Artillery (1/38)(2-8pdrs& 1-6" howitzer)
          2/5th (bis) Train Battalion (1/43)
          Bavarian Division: Crown Prince of Bavaria
          Infantry: Generalmajor Graf Mezzanelli
          1/,2/2nd Line Infantry Regiment (33/1,380)
          1/,2/13th Line Infantry Regiment (28/1,305)
          3rd Light Infantry Battalion (18/626)
          1/,2/3rd Line Infantry Regiment (34/1,440)
          1/,2/7th Line Infantry Regiment (31/1,455)
          Cavalry: Generalmajor Graf Minucci
          2nd Dragoon Regiment (5/150/174)2
          2 Numbers are officers, men, and horses.
          3rd Chevauxleger Regiment (14/331/366)
          Jäger zu Pferd Squadron (1/33/36)
          Artillery:
          1st Light Battery (4/163)(4-6pdrs & 2 5.5" howitzers)
          12pdr Foot Battery (5/164)(4-12pdrs & 2 5.5" howitzers)
          6pdr Foot Battery (3/103)(4-6pdrs & 2 5.5" howitzers)
          Reserve (2/119)
          Grand Park: Colonel Humbern
          2/1st Foot Artillery (2/53)
          3/6th Foot Artillery (0/8)
          Det. 4th Artillery Artisan Company (0/4)
          3rd (bis) Train Battalion (0/35)
          6/5th (bis) Train Battalion (0/38)
          Train Artisans (0/2)
          2/,5/2nd Sapper Battalion (5/136)
          4/1st Pontooneer Battalion (2/46)
          French Peasants (0/94)
          VI Corps: Maréchal Ney
          2nd Division: Général de division Marchand
          Brigade: Général de brigade Villatte
          1/,2/6th Légère Regiment (50/1,114)
          1/,2/39th Line Regiment (55/1,513)
          Brigade: Général de brigade Roguet
          1/,2/69th Line Regiment (45/1,218)
          1/,2/76th Line Regiment (49/1,632)
          3rd Division: Général de division Bisson
          Brigade: Général de brigade Marcognet
          1/,2/,3/25th Légère Regiment (69/1,397)
          1/,2/27th Line Regiment (39/1,586)
          Brigade: Général de brigade Labassée
          1/,2/50th Line Regiment (55/1,705)
          1/,2/59th Line Regiment (54/1,650)
          Corps Cavalry: Général de brigade Dupret
          1/,2/,3/,4/3rd Hussar Regiment (12/113)
          1/,2/,3/,4/10th Chasseur à Cheval Regiment (17/125)
          Corps Artillery: Colonel Bicquellert
          6-12pdrs, 16-8pdrs,6-4pdrs & 2-6" howitzers 3
          9/1st Foot Artillery
          10/1st Foot Artillery
          11/1st Foot Artillery
          12/1st Foot Artillery
          Total foot artillery - 12/300
          1/2nd Horse Artillery
          5/2nd Horse Artillery
          Total horse artillery - 3/115
          Det. 4th Artillery Artisan Company (1/25)
          Staff/5th Principal Train Battalion
          1/5th Principal Train Battalion
          2/5th Principal Train Battalion
          3/5th Principal Train Battalion
          4/5th Principal Train Battalion
          5/5th Principal Train Battalion
          4/3rd (bis) Train Battalion
          5/3rd (bis) Train Battalion
          Total artillery train - 10/659)
          7/1st Sapper Battalion (2/61)
          VIII Corps: Maréchal Mortier
          Cavalry Brigade: Général de division Lorge
          Brigade: Général de brigade Maschak
          1/,2/2nd Dutch Hussar Regiment (19/322/44/310)3
          3 Numbers are officers, men, officers' horses, and men's horses.
          4 Strengths date as of 20 March 1807.
          1/,2/,3/Dutch Cuirassier Regiment (20/329/40/353)
          1st Division: Général de division Grandjean
          1/,2/12th Légère Regiment (56/1,711)
          1/,2/72nd Line Regiment (56/1,540)
          Artillery:
          2nd Dutch Light Artillery
          Dutch Artillery Train
          2nd Division: Général de division Dupas
          1/,2/4th Légère Regiment (61/1,830)
          1/,2/58th Line Regiment (51/1,677)
          Artillery:
          1st Dutch Light Artillery
          Dutch Artillery Train
          Corps Park:
          Foot Artillery (6/188)
          Horse Artillery (2/84)
          Train (8/366)
          Dutch Artillery (2/39)
          Dutch Horse Artillery (14/148)(in 1st & 2nd Divisions)
          Dutch Train (5/195)(in 1st & 2nd Divisions)
          5/5th Sapper Battalion (3/68)
          IX Corps:
          4
          (Bavarian) Division: Generalleutnant Deroy
          1/,2/1st Line Regiment (33/1,383)
          1/,2/4th Line Regiment (27/1,036)
          1/,2/5th Line Regiment (30/1,409)
          1/,2/10th Line Regiment (36/1,480)
          1/,2/14th Line Regiment (26/1,056)
          5th Light Battalion (16/436)
          6th Light Battalion (14/527)
          von Braun Light Battalion (11.453)
          Reserve Infantry Company (3/145)
          Artillery:
          1st Battery (5/175)(2-12pdrs, 2-6pdrs & 2 howitzers)
          2nd Battery (5/135)(4-6prs & 2 7pdr howitzers)
          3rd Battery (4/134)(4-6prs & 2 7pdr howitzers)
          4th Battery (2/131)(4-6prs & 2 7pdr howitzers)
          5th Battery (2/127)(4-6prs & 2 7pdr howitzers)
          Reserve Battery (3/125)
          (Württemberg) Division: Generalleutnant von Seckendorf
          Erbprinz Battalion (14/703)
          Romig Battalion (6/339)
          von Lilienberg Battalion (13/667)
          Herzog Wilhelm Battalion (11/677)
          von Seckendorf Battalion (12/732)(detached)
          von Schröder Battalion (10/588)
          1st Jäger Battalion (10/651)
          2nd Jäger Battalion (9/583)
          1st Light Battalion (8/540)
          2nd Light Battalion (9/525)
          Etzdorff Fusilier Battalion (4/133)
          Artillery:
          Horse Battery (3/143)
          Foot Battery (2/202)
          Cavalry:
          Brigade: Général de brigade Lefebvre
          1st Bavarian Dragoon Regiment (19/382)
          2nd Bavarian Chevauxleger Regiment (16/397)
          Brigade: Général de brigade Montbrun
          1st König Württemberg Chevauleger Regiment (8/312)
          2nd Vacant Württemberg Chevauleger Regiment (10/315)
          1st Württemberg Jäger zu Pferd Regiment (6/111)
          Corps Reserve:
          Det. French 6th Foot Artillery (3/106)
          Det. French 7th Foot Artillery (1/38)
          Det. French 8th Foot Artillery (1/31)
          Det. French 1st Pontooneer Battalion (1/22)
          Det. 4th Sapper Battalion (1/65)
          Det. 1st Sapper Battalion (1/31)
          4th Miner Company (4/65)
          French Archives, Carton C2 481, 482, 483, 484 - Copyright, GFN 1990


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          • KDF10
            Erfahrener Benutzer
            Chef de Bataillon
            • 19.12.2010
            • 1278

            #6
            Nach dieser Quelle http://www.napoleon-series.org/milit...renchinf6.html war das Regiment nicht in Stralsund. Der Knopf bedeutet nicht automatisch, dass das Regiment dort war. Knöpfe waren manchmal Mangelware während eines Feldzuges. In einem Massengrab in Wilna fand man an französischen Uniformen sogar russische Uniformknöpfe.

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            • lucien
              Erfahrener Benutzer
              Sergent
              • 21.02.2012
              • 171

              #7
              Wikipedia,
              Siege of Stralsund (1807)

              First siege
              Stralsund, a port in Swedish Pomerania, was defended by the Swedish governor Hans von Essen.[7] On 28 January,[8] French forces commanded by Marshal Mortier crossed the Peene River in an attempt to impose a blockade on Stralsund. To the east, General of Division Jean Sebastien Grandjean's division crossed the Peene at Anklam, driving back the Swedish outposts. To the west, General of Division Pierre Louis Dupas' division crossed the stream unopposed near Demmin. On the 29th, Mortier's two divisions appeared before the port and on 30 January began the blockade.[9]
              For the next two months, the two sides fought a number of skirmishes as the French strengthened their lines of investment. Without control of the island of Rügen, the French were unable to interrupt Stralsund's sea communications and were harassed by Swedish gunboats. During the blockade, one French cavalry and three infantry regiments were taken from Mortier to fight against the Russians in Poland and replaced by troops from the Kingdom of Holland.[9]
              On 29 March, Mortier received orders to leave Grandjean's division to maintain the blockade and march to assist in the Siege of Kolberg in Brandenburg-Prussian Pomerania.[7] After Mortier left, Essen drove Grandjean's outnumbered troops from their lines. Grandjean fell back to Anklam where he was attacked again on 3 April and forced to retreat southeast to the fortress of Stettin on the Oder, arriving there on the 7th. Mortier retraced his steps and by 13 April had assembled 12,000 to 13,000 men at Stettin, about the same number as Essen. In very wet weather, Mortier began pressing Essen back to Anklam.[10] On 16 April, Mortier defeated the Swedes in the Battle of Belling.[11] The next day, Essen retreated to the north bank of the Peene.[10]
              Beginning on 18 April, the French and Swedish forces arranged the truce of Schlatkow.[8] Anxious to employ Mortier's men against the Russians and Prussians, Napoleon had authorized the marshal to make a truce with the Swedes. For their part, the Swedes were upset that England had given them very little support. By the 29th, the terms were worked out. The Swedes were to stay on the north side of the Peene. They handed over the islands of Usedom and Wolin at the mouth of the Oder and promised not to help the Prussians at the sieges of Kolberg (Kolobrzeg) or Danzig.[12]

              French V, VII, VIII & IX Corps
              15 March 1807


              VIII Corps: Maréchal Mortier

              2nd Division: Général de division Dupas
              1/,2/4th Légère Regiment (61/1,830)
              1/,2/58th Line Regiment (51/1,677)


              le 58ème régiment de ligne était bien présent au 1er siège de STRASLUND

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              • KDF10
                Erfahrener Benutzer
                Chef de Bataillon
                • 19.12.2010
                • 1278

                #8
                Zitat von lucien Beitrag anzeigen

                le 58ème régiment de ligne était bien présent au 1er siège de STRASLUND

                Möglich dass es da war, auf jeden Fall war das Korps da. Mehr geht aus dem Text nicht hervor. Dieser Artikel in der französischen Wikipedia http://fr.wikipedia.org/wiki/58e_r%C...terie_de_ligne erwähnt Stralsund nicht. Zugegeben, der ist noch sehr unvollständig. Vielleicht kann den mal jemand besser recherchieren?

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                • Jules Salmo
                  Erfahrener Benutzer
                  Tambour-Major
                  • 08.12.2007
                  • 291

                  #9
                  58e

                  Vielleicht hilft das hier weiter.
                  Seite 187



                  Viele Grüße
                  J. S.

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                  • Tellensohn
                    Erfahrener Benutzer
                    Chef de Bataillon
                    • 16.02.2011
                    • 1253

                    #10
                    Und das hier auch:

                    "Osterode, 23 mars 1807

                    ORDRE DU JOUR.

                    Le maréchal Mortier témoignera ma satisfaction aux compagnies de voltigeurs du 58e régiment de ligne et du 4e d'infanterie légère qui ont défendu la redoute devant Stralsund, à la sortie du 14 mars. Le capitaine Drivet, , commandant la compagnie du 58e, est nommé membre de la Légion d'honneur; trois décorations de la Légion d'honneur sont accordées aux compagnies de voltigeurs du 58e et du 4e léger, pour être données aux officiers et sous-officiers qui, de l'opinion de leurs camarades, se sont le plus distingués dans cette journée."

                    S. hier:

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                    • lucien
                      Erfahrener Benutzer
                      Sergent
                      • 21.02.2012
                      • 171

                      #11
                      Bravo à tous pour les recherches.

                      rost:

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