Schlacht bei Arcole

Dave H · 08.04.2014, 13:14

und von Enrico Acerbi bei TMP

Hi I am Enrico Acerbi
I can confirm the presence of Walachian troops at Arcole and Caldiero
from I Walach – Orlath (Commander Oberst Johann Caballini von Ehrenburg) and II Walach – Naszod (Commander Oberst Johann von Devchich) in 1796 had been organized three Combined battalions:
Comb. Grenz Btn. 1 Walach (Oblt Ignaz von Stojanich) was in Germany at Kreuznach – Sulzberg – Lahn
Comb. Grenz Btn. 2 Walach (Graf Carl Woestenroedt) was at Arcole, was in second line with Anton Schubirz
Comb. Grenz Btn. 3 Walach (Maj. Joseph von Bohatsch) was at Arcole – guarding the rear front of baggage trains at Villanova (near Villabella) under major Miloradovic

15 November 1796 – ARCOLE (sources Streffleurs and KA)
FZM Freiherr Joszef Alvinczy von Berberek
Chief of Staff: FML Franz Ritter von Weyrother . (HQ at Gombion)
KK Jägers de Mahoney 4 coy 520
Stab Dragoner Rgt.: 1 Sqn. 200
Coy Pioneers 140
Reserve Artillery
1 Foot Battery 4 x 6pdrs.
1 Foot Battery 4 x12pdrs
1 Foot Battery 4 x 6pdrs.
1 Foot Battery 4 x12pdrs
Kav.Bde Oberst Carl-Christoph von Piacsek – 670
Rgt Uhlanen FML Johann von Mészáros (1/2 Esk.) Cmdr: Oberst Ezechiel von Mattyásowszky 60
Rgt 2nd Hussar Joseph Anton, Erzherzog Palatin von Ungarn: 4th Sqdn 110
Rgt Hussars GdK Graf Erdödy Johann Nepomuk de Monyorókerék et Monoszló (2 Sqns) 200
Horse Artillery : 1 section (2-6pdr)
Avant-garde d'Armée
Feld Brigade GM Fürst Friedrich Xavier Hohenzollern-Hechingen 3287
Rgt Hussars GdK Graf Erdödy Johann Nepomuk de Monyorókerék et Monoszló 100
KK IR 32 4th Battalion FML Sámuel Graf Gyulai von Maros-Nemeth 850
und Nádaska (cmdr: Obst-Liet. Postrehovsky)
KK IR 54 1st Battalion FML Carl Graf Callenberg 820
7th Komponiertes Carlstadt Grenzer Battalion Major Siegenfeld 817
Komponiertes Graf Samuel Gyulai I-II Btn 700
Foot Artillery : 4 sections (8-3pdr)
Right Wing Division FML Marchese Giovanni de Provera
Between Vago, Caldiero, Strà and Gombion – Order to attack Verona
Erste Treffen
Feld Brigade ADC Oberst Franz Sticker von Haymingthal 3538
Rgt Hussars GdK Graf Erdödy Johann Nepomuk de Monyorókerék et Monoszló 100
KK IR 57 / 2nd Battalion – FML Josef, Graf Colloredo-Waldsee 850
4th Komponiertes Banal Grenzer Bataillon 920
2nd Komponiertes Banal Grenzer Bataillon 806
3rd Komponiertes Banal Grenzer Bataillon 862
Foot Artillery : 4 sections (8-3pdr)
Zweite Treffen
Feld Brigade GM Freiherr Anton Schubirz – 4400
Rgt Hussars GdK Graf Erdödy Johann Nepomuk de Monyorókerék et Monoszló 100
KK IR 4 Combined Ist/IInd Battalion (Deutschmeister Regiment Wien) : (Veteran) 1160
KK IR 4 IV Battalion 1150
KK IR 36 / 3rd Battalion FML Graf Franz Ulrich Kinsky 860
2nd Komponiertes ‘Walachen' Grenzer Battalion 980
Foot Artillery : 4 sections (8-3pdr)
Left Wing Division FML Peter Vitus Quosdanovich
Between San Bonifacio, Soave and Castelletto.Order to attack Ronco and Zevio on the right Adige's bank.
Avant-Garde (will became Rear Guard)
Avant Garde Feld Brigade Oberst Graf Brigido 2988
at Arcole
Rgt 2nd Hussar Erzherzog Joseph Anton, 3rd Sqn (Rittmeister Harrucker) 150
6th Komponiertes Carlstädter-Szluiner Grenzer Battalion 976
5th Komponiertes Carlstadt Grenzer Battalion 1150
Foot Artillery : 1 section (2-3pdr)
Detached at San Bonifacio (Major Daniel Miloradovic)
3rd Komponiertes ‘Walachen' Grenzer Battalion 712
Erste Treffen
Feld Brigade ADC Oberst Lieut. Graf Aloys Gavassini – 4284
Rgt Hussars FML Dagobert Sigmund Graf Wurmser – 1st Sqn. 150
Rgt Hussars GdK Graf Erdödy Johann Nepomuk de Monyorókerék et Monoszló 160
(1 Sqn)
KK IR 51 FML Gabriel Splényi Freiherr von Mihaldy 2nd Battalion – Major Haslinger 700
KK IR 51 FML Gabriel Splényi Freiherr von Mihaldy – 3rd Battalion – Hauptmann Lang 834
4th Komponiertes Banater Grenzer Bataillon 1220
5th Komponiertes Banater Grenzer Bataillon 1220
Foot Artillery : 4 sections (8-3pdr)
Zweiter Treffen
Feld Brigade GM Adolph von Brabeck 3617
Rgt Uhlanen FML Johann von Mészáros (1 Eskadron) Cmdr: Oberst Ezechiel von Mattyásowszky 150
KK IR 25 1st-2nd-3rd Battalion FML Graf Ludwig Brechainville: 750
2nd Komponiertes Banater Grenzer Bataillon 1000
6th Komponiertes Banater Grenzer Bataillon 980
8th Komponiertes Warasdiner – Carlstädter Grenz Battalion (Hauptmann Horvatovic) 819
Foot Artillery : 4 sections (8-3pdr)
Foot Artillery : 3 sections (6-3pdr)
Reserve
Reserve Brigade General Major Freiherr Anton Mittrovsky 4054
at Montebello
Rgt Hussars FML Dagobert Sigmund Graf Wurmser – 1st Sqn. 150
KK Freiwillige Wiener Bataillon 3 coy 570
KK IR 53 Comb. 3rd 4th Battalions FML Johann Freiherr Jellacic de Buzim 619
4th Komponiertes Warasdiner Szluiner Grenzer Battalion 914
5th Komponiertes Warasdiner Carlstädter Grenzer Battalion 740
Foot Artillery : 4 sections (8-3pdr)
Reserve at Villabella with Train Baggages
4th Komponiertes Carlstadt Grenzer Battalion 980

Dave H · 08.04.2014, 13:13

Aus meiner eigenen Arbeit auf TMP!

The Disposition for the attack dated 1st November 1796 (KA doc) lists 6 columns, which I think are Davidovich's men, forming the Tyrol Korps coming in from the north:
I) GM Loudon
Gyulai Freikorps (2) 400
3rd Batt IR de Vins 1100
1st Batt IR Jellacic 1153
2nd Batt IR Mittrowsky 900
(illegible) Dragoons 211
Erz Johann Dragoons (1) 151
II) GM Oksay
Gyulai Freikorps (4) 700
2nd Batt IR Latterman 820
3rd Batt IR Latterman 820
Oberst Weidenfeld
IR Preiss (2) 1237
Combined Grenadier batt 160
9. Erdody Hussars (2 ½) 227
Uhlans (1 ¾) 236
III) GM Sporck
3rd Karlstadt District Grenzer (4) 814
Gyulai Freikorps (2) 400
Mahoney Jaeger (1) 100
IR M. Wallis (1) 1246
IV) GM Vukassovich
Wallach-Illyrian Grenzer (3) 399
IR14 Klebek (2) 1436
IR Brechainville (1) 993
IR23 Toscana (1) 681
Mahoney Jaeger (2) 233
Uhlans (1/4) 30
V) Also GM Vukassovich
Szluin Grenzer (2) 494
1st Warasdin/2nd Banal Grenzer (1) 207
Combined Karlstadt District Grenzer (1) 152
Mahoney Jaeger (1) 100
9. Erdody Hussars (1) 120
IR42 Erbach (1) 566
IR Erz. Anton (1) 1319
VI) Oberstlt. Seillen
1st Batt IR Latterman 696
Ogulin Grenzer (2) 252
9. Erdody Hussars (1/2) 74

Some bits from the Alte Feldakten Italien 1796 XI seem to cover the Friaul Korps:
GM Hohenzollern: A/guard commander at Caldiero:
Hohenzollern: 4 batts 8 sqdns, 8 guns
Oberst Sticker 4 batts, 1 sqdn, 8 guns
Reserve 10 guns
Total: 8000 men. The guns with the brigades would be 3pdr battalion guns.

FML Provera at Villanuova:
GM Brabeck 4 batts, 4 guns (4000)
GM Schubirz 5 batts, 10 guns (5000)
GM Liptay 4 batts, 1 sqdn, 8 guns (3,500)
GM Brigido 3 batts 1/2 sqdn, 6 guns (1583)
GM Mittrowsky 4 batts, 1/2 sqdn, 8 guns (3,500)

So, looking at the strengths given in the AFA for 1/11, I think some of the layout is: (there is one figure for each unit, so some are apportioned where split up)

Hohenzollern's A/guard:
Hohenzollern:
2nd Batt Banal District Grenzer (1) 1358
3rd Battalion IR32 S. Gyulai (1) 1099
Mahoney German Jaeger (1 co) 176
Gyulai Freikorps (1 co) 117

Sticker:
4 batts – probably four Karlstadt/Banal Grenzer battalions as that makes sense for A/guard duties and the rest of the reserve guns were 3pdrs.
Their combined cavalry:
9th Erdody Hussars (6) 529
8th Wurmser Hussars (2) 260
2nd Erz. Joseph Hussars (5th sqdn) 196

Reserve guns include: 2 x cavalry guns

GM Schubirz:
IR4 Deutschmeister(2 batts) 1324
IR36 U Kinsky (1 batt) 882
+ 2 batts

GM Liptay (Gavasini)
IR51 Splenyi (2nd & 3rd Batts) 2190
+ 2 batts (incl. a Banat Grenzer batt)
8th Wurmser Hussars (1) 130

GM Mittrowsky
IR 53 Jellacic (3rd & 4th batts) ??
IR7 W. Schroeder (1 combined batt) 934
3rd Siebenburgen-Wallach District Grenzer (1) 884
IR4 Deutschmeister (2 cos) 260

9th Erdody (1/2) 50
2nd Erz. Joseph (3/4) 144

2 x 6pdr, 2 x 3pdr

Tom · 04.07.2013, 06:28

OdB

Vielleicht hilft das weiter: http://www.napoleon-series.org/cgi-b...=read;id=33005

Zu den Geschützen / Batterien habe ich allerdings (auf den ersten Blick) nichts gesehen.

Wenn man ein bisschen mit den Suchworten experimentiert (auch auf Französisch, Englisch, Italienisch), findet man bei Google und Wikipedia (engl. Version) eine ganze Menge...

Gruß, Tom

Christoph · 03.07.2013, 16:12

Ich möchte eine ungefäre anzahl der eingesetzten truppen und eine charakterisierung der truppen , sprich ob grenadire eingesetzt wurden...leichte feldartellerie schwere usw.
ich habe noch garkeine quellen bis auf ein paar bildmaterialien